Kirstie Allsopp, Phil Spencer, Stephen Mangan, Charles Hamilton, Rita Ora

The host welcomes property gurus Kirstie Allsopp and Phil Spencer, who discuss their forthcoming Channel 4 series Love It or List It, and comedy actor Stephen Mangan talks about his role in the new National Theatre play Rules for Living. There's music from rapper Charles Hamilton and The Voice judge Rita Ora, performing their single New York Raining